tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post105950990659310964..comments2024-02-28T01:43:54.906-08:00Comments on Terry Tyler: It's all about the people....Terry Tylerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-53592662874071342412014-09-28T09:17:47.265-07:002014-09-28T09:17:47.265-07:00I think everyone agrees about the Brody thing, A! ...I think everyone agrees about the Brody thing, A! I do agree re Tyrion, now - I was just twisting what I thought, very slightly, for the sake of the article, ha ha!!!! I agree with all you've said :)Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-20548305763265584322014-09-28T08:15:58.544-07:002014-09-28T08:15:58.544-07:00Homeland won't be Homeland without Brody. I w...Homeland won't be Homeland without Brody. I was dismayed when we said goodbye to Ned Stark but now, for me, Tyrion IS GoT. Yes, you're right, the characters make the plot. If you have weak characters, you lose the interest of your viewers/readers straight away. The same can be said of Breaking Bad. What amazing characters, even the ones you hate! I know it's bad when I can't remember a character's name!Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-74415191259022209182014-09-22T06:28:47.408-07:002014-09-22T06:28:47.408-07:00Thanks, Workshy!!! Agreed, agreed :)Thanks, Workshy!!! Agreed, agreed :)Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-89404480643015243292014-09-20T11:51:27.362-07:002014-09-20T11:51:27.362-07:00Really enjoyed reading your post, Terry, and I cou...Really enjoyed reading your post, Terry, and I couldn't agree more. I think that's why I love reading books that are part of a series because you really get to love your fave characters :) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17375609435234253673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-26100188400370071072014-09-17T04:05:55.796-07:002014-09-17T04:05:55.796-07:00Oh, I'm so hoping it is so - I wonder if that ...Oh, I'm so hoping it is so - I wonder if that chap (can't think of his name!), the one who gave Carrie the phone so she could speak to Brody when he was in his cell, might have kept him alive as some sort of bargaining tool - I am currently with your friend!!!! I did read somewhere the actor who plays Saul saying that there would be shocks and surprises..... so maybe we're right! Cross fingers :)Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-59428663757014095712014-09-17T02:58:49.714-07:002014-09-17T02:58:49.714-07:00I definitely agree with you on "Homeland"...I definitely agree with you on "Homeland". A friend of mine refuses to believe that Brody is even dead and that he is miraculously saved by Carrie and survives. It's going to be a very different show from now on. I'm interested to see how it will play out though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-72183784569537245672014-09-15T06:54:06.325-07:002014-09-15T06:54:06.325-07:00Thanks for reading and commenting, Jennifer. I so...Thanks for reading and commenting, Jennifer. I so agree re the series - I actually did an article on sequels a while back, asking several writers to give their tips about them, and exactly what you said was mentioned. And yes - re the TV shows. It's a bit - right, they're together now. So what do we do? Kill one of them, or find yet another reason why they can't be together??! Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-19580309062335173302014-09-15T06:45:50.556-07:002014-09-15T06:45:50.556-07:00I think you're right, though the plot/characte...I think you're right, though the plot/character balance varies with genre. I think that's why so many TV shows struggle when the dynamic between characters changes e.g. when the 'will they, won't they' couple finally get together. Writing a series is hard because your characters need to grow without losing what drew people to them in the first place.Jennifer Gilby Robertshttp://www.jennifergilbyroberts.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-47561292401696467992014-09-14T03:14:45.581-07:002014-09-14T03:14:45.581-07:00I think with Bauer you have to watch all the serie...I think with Bauer you have to watch all the series over a period of a few months in order to totally love him!!!!<br /><br />I've never watched Castle though I think husband has; it's one I'd like to give a go, tho. I tried to watch Mad Men once and found it flat and cliched, but I know loads of people love it so I may try again some time. Glad you agree with me!!! And I'm still feeling sad about Brody....Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-52373799288750441492014-09-14T03:03:42.136-07:002014-09-14T03:03:42.136-07:00Oh and I should have added Castle as my prime exam...Oh and I should have added Castle as my prime example, without the fantastic relationship between Castle and Beckett the show would be nowt, even with all the murders!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17054862986873877299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-4981696625589217652014-09-14T03:02:04.517-07:002014-09-14T03:02:04.517-07:00I agree re. Homeland (won't be watching season...I agree re. Homeland (won't be watching season 4!), although not 24 I'm afraid, Bauer annoys me! Totally agree about characterisation and the idea that they guide the plot. Erm, no, I do that! And I am all for the situation merely being a vehicle for the characters (I was saying this yesterday to someone - Mad Men, for example, is all about the relationships and interactions, it doesn't matter it's an ad agency, it could be anywhere (Parliament, perhaps!)). Good post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17054862986873877299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-13845223755648723352014-09-14T02:10:02.247-07:002014-09-14T02:10:02.247-07:00Ta for reading, FP. Now, try telling that to my h...Ta for reading, FP. Now, try telling that to my husband who insists Homeland is all about the terrorism (even though I saw a tear roll down his cheeks at the end of series 8 of 24)Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-2372136737426269622014-09-14T02:08:32.760-07:002014-09-14T02:08:32.760-07:00The fact that you remember JR (one of my all time ...The fact that you remember JR (one of my all time heroes!) makes all good in my world!!!Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-71658772144228381762014-09-14T02:07:52.980-07:002014-09-14T02:07:52.980-07:00Well, it's certainly the most important one!!!...Well, it's certainly the most important one!!!!Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-25173862238561226742014-09-13T13:54:15.750-07:002014-09-13T13:54:15.750-07:00Absolutely, Terry. It's the characters who mak...Absolutely, Terry. It's the characters who make the story, not the other way round. Francis Pottshttp://www.francispotts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-17396172279381759992014-09-13T13:48:32.278-07:002014-09-13T13:48:32.278-07:00Hehe! It's okay, I have great selective memory...Hehe! It's okay, I have great selective memory with things like that - I will have totally forgotten that somebody even dies, much less what his name was, in a couple of days! (The danger will be if I forget what the show is called - Must Write It Down ;-))WillowWinshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10246542908881097397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-74018996386672388802014-09-13T12:17:24.173-07:002014-09-13T12:17:24.173-07:00Deacon - phwooarrr! Sorry, wasn't that the poi...Deacon - phwooarrr! Sorry, wasn't that the point? Ha!Julia Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04329377424036314411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-64246444101781706972014-09-13T12:13:21.907-07:002014-09-13T12:13:21.907-07:00I was at a writing workshop with Trish Nicholson l...I was at a writing workshop with Trish Nicholson last weekend (brilliant it was) and she mentioned the same thing. It's characters that make a book or story unique, compelling and memorable. I took that one home with me. Great post, TT even if the only characters here I recognise are JR and Bobby :) (that shows you how long it is since I've had a TV!)Vallypeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08309284606572565277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-69710267055372977072014-09-13T08:20:06.317-07:002014-09-13T08:20:06.317-07:00You said it all, CJ. I do know what you mean by c...You said it all, CJ. I do know what you mean by crime ones, as the plot has to be convincing and intriguing too, but if it's full of the aforementioned tortured detective types, it just becomes yet another crime thriller.... far, far too many detectives-with-a-past!!Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-73043693013065794242014-09-13T08:04:19.119-07:002014-09-13T08:04:19.119-07:00True ..it's always the characters that are the...True ..it's always the characters that are the draw...there are a few exceptions and I'm racking my brains to think of book that is more plot driven, Oh, many crime ones tend to be, but unless there is someone the reader as drawn to, positively or negatively, they won't get far in the book. And good characters come from a writer who is committed to them, to their development, to listening to their voice and letting them go maybe unlikely ways at times...I've read too many books where the writer tries to produce genre stereotypes: the tortured detective who can't DO relationships and listens to a lot of eclectic music while drinking etc...doesn't work.<br />God characters are like good friendships - they have to be nurtured and worked on. And then, as you say, the plot happens....Carol Hedgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10359578624109905400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-19534318370211438752014-09-13T07:42:17.233-07:002014-09-13T07:42:17.233-07:00Agree agree agree and 10 times agree with both poi...Agree agree agree and 10 times agree with both points, Willow! Thanks for reading - oh, and now I've told you what happens in Homeland - sorry!!!! Ha ha!!!Terry Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077413235902203848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7513470670765405287.post-37279264941128504942014-09-13T06:52:18.821-07:002014-09-13T06:52:18.821-07:00I was saying just yesterday to a friend, "if ...I was saying just yesterday to a friend, "if the characters don't grab me in the first chapter, I'm just not going to read the book". A huge part of that "grab" for me is dialogue - if each character doesn't have their own, believable, voice, I quickly lose interest. Plot is important, but if you don't have real characters to carry it out, there really isn't much point!<br /><br />When it comes to writing, you really don't know how things are going to pan out until you start to write - things that weren't obvious in the planning/thinking stages suddenly become glaringly apparent once you start typing and you get those "Oh! *that's* what actually works!" moments. <br /><br />Goes without saying that I am looking forward to Last Child, and now I need to give Homeland a go...!WillowWinshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10246542908881097397noreply@blogger.com